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The Mingun, add back in the recoil| (4THIDUSA) SSG H. |
Posted: January 28, 2005 08:59 am
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 Real zombie Nemesis  Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: December 13, 2004  |
Thats my suggestions for the min gun, although nothign else has recoil, shooting the mini gun with recoil was fun, just a thought
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| -KRUX- |
Posted: January 28, 2005 11:06 am
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Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: January 20, 2005 |
that would be pretty cool
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| joesive |
Posted: January 28, 2005 12:12 pm
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 Rotten Meat Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: January 18, 2005 |
i agree that the mini gun should have recoil, even if the rest of the weapons dont have recoil. the mini gun is a much more powerful weapon and so not having recoil does seen a little odd, but that is my opinion.
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| Marku |
Posted: January 28, 2005 02:34 pm
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 Rotten Meat Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: January 27, 2005 |
I dont believe it should have recoil. I dont know the reality of the mini gun's recoilness etc but based on every movie ive seen it has no recoil whats so ever. It just spins and spins firing out crap load of lead :-P. Its pretty easy weapon to waste ammo too and its accuracy is fine how it is right now.
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| Immoral Sniper |
Posted: January 28, 2005 03:43 pm
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The force is strong in me  Group: BB Betatesters Posts: 1177 Joined: December 10, 2004 |
The reality of the matter is that it produces roughly 20kg of recoil constantly, which is far more for anyone less than an action movie hero human can handle. If recoil was added for the minigun, I think it should added for every other weapon to some extent as well (except the gas tank, flamethrower, and most likely the axe for obvious reasons) because it would feel ackward with JUST the minigun having recoil. If this is to be implemented, the accuracy of the weapons on full automatic will have to be decreased to compensate for the physical recoil, if not, then there will be many, many missed full automatic shots. -------------------- BB Maps I've made...
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| (4THIDUSA) SSG H. |
Posted: January 28, 2005 04:09 pm
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Real zombie Nemesis Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: December 13, 2004 |
No, just the mini gun, the other weapons even with auto or burst are still easy to control and hit your target
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| Immoral Sniper |
Posted: January 28, 2005 05:11 pm
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The force is strong in me Group: BB Betatesters Posts: 1177 Joined: December 10, 2004 |
It still takes control in order to keep it on target, hence why there should be some small degree of physical recoil. If it is added to one weapon it should be added to most of them, I don't think it would feel right if only a single weapon had physical recoil.
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| Elite viking |
Posted: January 28, 2005 10:29 pm
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 Veteran Lord Carnage Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 2471 Joined: December 16, 2004 |
@Marku the minigun is IMPOSSIBLE to fire when not deployed. With ammo, power and gun, you carry 20 kgs on the back, a 15 kg gun you make an attempt at holding right, and when you fire you get 10 kg recoil at the least. Aiming at that stage is virtually impossible. Movies arent the best place to get info about firearms. Seen rambo? He holds a 30. cal in one hand...
So if it stays, its a cartoon gun, not recoil just bad aim etc. If all firearms got recoil, automatic rifles would have a bit too, since they are light-weight weapons. Weight determines recoil to a certain point along with RoF, calibre, length and such. So all guns would have a throwback. If you want a clue of what minigun recoil should be, fire an mg42 undeployed in DoD. Thats about equal. |
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| (4THIDUSA) SSG H. |
Posted: January 28, 2005 10:55 pm
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Real zombie Nemesis Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: December 13, 2004 |
No, Rambo fired an M60, 7.62mm machine gun, and you can do that, I know I did it, hitting something with any accuracy at distance, totaly different matter.
Plus you can shoot an M1919 30. cal while running around, again distance and accuracy, but up close, room to room, it can be done. I just like the way the recoil is for the minigun it was fun, thast why I wanted it added back, it doesnt have to be about every weapon then must have recoil, just the minigun -------------------- |
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| hunter |
Posted: January 28, 2005 11:02 pm
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 Fantasma Cazador Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 3702 Joined: December 08, 2004 |
i dont like minigun it doesn really fit like only on the blackhawk maybe but carrying it around sounds silly
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| Elite viking |
Posted: January 28, 2005 11:11 pm
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Veteran Lord Carnage Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 2471 Joined: December 16, 2004 |
I got a skin of a m620a1 or whatever its called. that standard USA machinegun...
M60? |
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| Keyes |
Posted: January 28, 2005 11:16 pm
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 I'm On A Boat Group: Moderators Posts: 2264 Joined: December 04, 2004 |
 that's an M60...i dunno what the other gun is, so u'll hav to work it out for yourself  --------------------  |
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| Elite viking |
Posted: January 30, 2005 03:56 pm
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Veteran Lord Carnage Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 2471 Joined: December 16, 2004 |
Yeah... think thats the one. WHY IN HELL does all guns have 1239816sddgkw ish names?
Why not "the 1337stick" or "the big one" or "heavy pump action shotgun that will blow of your head" It would make it all so much more easy.... |
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| AEnemia |
Posted: January 30, 2005 07:16 pm
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Rotten Meat Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: December 23, 2004 |
How about we just get rid of the minigun, since it's ussually (note I said USSUALLY) one of the most retarded weapons you can put in a video game? If we MUST have a heavy machine gun, make it something believable like an M249 or M60. And tone it down a bit. I'm sick of seeing people win effortlessly by using miniguns. : / Maybe I'm being whiny here, but without someone whining occassionally, problems are never fixed.
Personally, I'd rather see a SPAS-12 than a minigun any day, if you're thinking of replacing it completely.  |
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| Immoral Sniper |
Posted: January 30, 2005 09:29 pm
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The force is strong in me Group: BB Betatesters Posts: 1177 Joined: December 10, 2004 |
How is it a problem? This is a suggestion, not a bug.
Another shotgun is VERY unlikely because there are already two shotguns that fill different roles.
Give a good player a sawed off and a flame thrower and they will win much easier than if they had a minigun.
The same way zombies are believable If you want to continue to suggest the removal of the minigun, please make a seperate thread about it. -------------------- BB Maps I've made...
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