The holocaust was well thought out and legitamit in the mind of the person who brought it about.

One more thing, how are you both a neutral party and a proponent of one side, considering you started this thread?

wow dude, what are you a travel agent?
Because you just took this topic around the world and back!

Maybe you missed the part where I said "in matters where I am a neutral party", I.E. different topics....
I thought I made that pretty obvious.... anyways,

Let's just stick with the topic at hand k?

Topic at Hand:
Revolver needs to have a muzzle flash.

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now renegade, cmon, its good that you pointed it out but let it rest. its beginning to sound like its your way or the high way....

It may sometimes come off like that because I am very adamit and thorough with all my suggestions. As you have probably seen in my zombie story, or reason why female models don't exist, I pay attention to every small detail, and put much thought into my suggestions. I spend a lot of time making sure to think it over so it doesn't have any loop holes or cracks. That's why when someone simply says:
"I don't like it" or "It sucks" without saying why, or giving me proper reasons it kinda just urks me.
If you don't like a or my suggestion explain why, at least that way I can understand where your coming from.

huh whats a tracer?

A special bullet used in usually in automatic weapons that, when fired, makes a long coloured streak through the air (usually red or orange) that gives feedback to the shooter about how close to the target it hit and in what direction its going etc.

Renegade your just pissed off because they added a sixshooter but not something YOU would want. dev team says what weapons will be added (altought players requests are also very critical) but if theres only one player who wants a certain weapon theres no hope for a weapon that ONE player wants.

Its not that important to have a muzzle flash man. I own a 44magnum Ruger Blackhawk. Unless its dark out, you don't see a muzzle flash. Same thing with my Taurs 44 special snubnose hammerless...nothing. The only reason you want a muzzle flash is because you see it in movies. Did you know they have to time the cameras perfectly to get the muzzle flash?

I mean dang. I own a lot of guns, and I go to the range often. Muzzle flash isn't important!!!! Surving is

Word \../

It's a cosmetic issue and my guess is, IF it's on some sort of priority list, you'll find it way down...

And personally, if I was forced to use that thing at night at long range I would use tracers in every chamber...

you make a suggestion, i counter it, and you counter my counter. thats perfectly fine, eactly how a good discussion should go, and i admit its way better then just "it sucks".

also, this is not about admitting im wrong, because if im wrong i will admit it right away. im even not afraid to throw out a public appologee if i have too.

its the subject of this all that bothers me. a suggestion, fine, but is ee you throw out alot, and yet again thats fine. but about every little thing, thats annoying.

why doesnt it have a muzzle flash? well, maybe the dev's forgot it. my point is, its not important. its not a game chrashing bug. its something thats just looked over, and pointed out. ok. but when i say it isnt important dont worry about it, you do, and go on about it. we cant bring out a patch just for this, or every other little inconsistency you find. its all about prioritizing, and this isnt even close to half the list of things needing to be done.

also, it seems to be your way or the high way, because you first asked, can we remove the tracer? i asked, why? you gave me a explanation, that this type of ammo isnt usually found in revolvers. what i sed then, is that i'd rather have the tracer ammo in there, THEN having to delete 200 threads about a no hit bug, because if the tracer wasnt in, and a shot missed, people'd say that it was a bug.

anyways this post is already too long. the suggestions you make, are usually well thought of, but this is not one of them.

it is, no big deal. tracers help see where your shooting. this is not made for realism so we dont go checkin which gun has tracers and which doesnt. muzzle flash: just overlooked. but no big deal. if you had thought over this well, you would've known, its no big deal, let it slide. i know i will by now.

could we lock this thread? i think this is dismissed.

im trying to lock as little threads as i can since its kinda a negative sight, a forum filled with locks.

The fact that we didn't have a revolver in 1.0 wasn't a game crashing bug either.

Is it too much to ask for consistency? Basically you have three options:
1) Guns in BB don't need muzzleflash
Then I answer to that, why do other guns have them then?

2) There are more pressing things to do right now
If that's the case, what made the relvolver so pressing that it had to be included right away?

It's all about consistency. You can't make half a map, and then when someone asks "where's the other half" say "oh, we didn't feel that was necessary at the time".
If you have muzzleflash on all the other guns, it should be inlcuded on any new guns that require it.

Most importantly, I don't even need an answer, I just need an EXPLANATION. IF you choose not to include it fine, but then try to legitamtely justify why every other gun has one and not the revolver.

I don't demand that it be added now, just that it be given future consideration and at least be put on the "to do" list for next patch.

I would have to agree ... ALSO, I hate to admit it, but the revolver on certain difficulty doesn't kill zombies in one hit. It will only kill in one hit if its on a default listen server .. otherwise its hard to kill in one shot.

|2enegade I have no problems with you personally. But damn you are demanding as hell. Don't forget this is a FUN MOD. These people are doing this for free. They are doing it in their spare time. They can not accomadate everyone. If you really have so many problems with this MOD why even bother playing it? Or complaining about it?

Which is why I think they've got it made if they have a forumer willing to sit down and detail polygon for polygon what would help.
Don't forget, suggestions are a good thing!