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Zombie Fake Death

cesar101	Posted: February 13, 2005 02:15 am
Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: November 23, 2004	zombies dont have real hunting instinct, they are damned to having only one which is eating. eating and hunting are diffrent. If someone is left with eating instinct only this means they are determined sons of bitches and also due to the fact they are undead and cant feel anything means that they wont stop when shot. But if you shoot them they could possibly fall, causing them to lose sight of target and possibly leaving muscles in shock from the shot, and or paralyzing their waist down because of a hit to spinal cord. Then you get close to them and there eating instinct kicks in once again and they go for the nearest food source. -------------------- Brought you by Umbrella, rejuvinating dead skin!

_CiviliaN^SoldieR_	Posted: February 13, 2005 02:33 am
civilized d00d Group: Moderators Posts: 3250 Joined: November 01, 2004	Once again you are stating certain stuff about them like it's a fact, people only have conclusions, and a hunting tactic seems logical to me. --------------------

cesar101	Posted: February 13, 2005 03:27 am
Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: November 23, 2004	there zombies man not tigers, they have bread for brain, they are dumb slow and rely on overwhelming their food. -------------------- Brought you by Umbrella, rejuvinating dead skin!

Mac	Posted: February 13, 2005 05:41 am
Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: December 16, 2004	Well, you can't really say overwhelming, because thats another 'hunting tactic' as well .. the only reason they overwhelm is by coincidence as a mass of them converge on a human. As for the 'play dead', I think the best option would have to have dead zombie ent option on the map that you can trigger to come to life after a certain objective or something. Like .. "oh .. its too late to save the scientists, lets go back." as you turn for the door, BAM! scientists get up and try to eat you -------------------- Ex-Admin of \|A.B.C.\|'s Super Hard BB Server

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Posted: February 13, 2005 01:29 pm

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QUOTE (cesar101 @ Feb 13 2005, 02:27 AM)

there zombies man not tigers, they have bread for brain, they are dumb slow and rely on overwhelming their food.

Again your talking infact, people only 'think' what zombies act like, you don't actually 'know' if they are that stupid.
If it was to happen, there's a whole brain up there, it could always go for the other parts, but anyway that's not what i mean.
It's basic instinct is to attack, surely after a while it will learn that it needs tactics, and play-dead is a very simple tactic.

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hunter	Posted: February 13, 2005 02:05 pm
Fantasma Cazador Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 3702 Joined: December 08, 2004	So do you like the idea? Would you like to see zombies suprise attack you? --------------------

_CiviliaN^SoldieR_	Posted: February 13, 2005 02:10 pm
civilized d00d Group: Moderators Posts: 3250 Joined: November 01, 2004	Yep, i love it. I don't mind about the realism, i mean we're blocking body parts of zombies here, why not a play-dead zombie. --------------------

hunter	Posted: February 13, 2005 02:11 pm
Fantasma Cazador Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 3702 Joined: December 08, 2004	Cool, just need some devs to see this topic. --------------------

Immoral Sniper	Posted: February 13, 2005 06:37 pm
The force is strong in me Group: BB Betatesters Posts: 1177 Joined: December 10, 2004	In the BB universe. Zombies only go down because: - You destroyed the head - You did enough damage to sever the head from the rest of the body - They are in the process of standing up to attack you from their "grave" Now, logically speaking, if you see a zombie on the ground with its head attached to the rest of its body, would you: - Assume it was dead and walk past it - Become deeply enamored and make mad, passionate love to it - Realize that it was alive and waiting, promply blowing its head off its prone, motionless body. Hopefully this clarifies my position on the matter. I would also like to note that chances are this wouldn't be easy to code and balance, and would most likely strain the game engine even more. -------------------- BB Maps I've made... bb_stronghold {Beta 9} bb_shootingrange {Beta 1} Threads you should read before posting... Immoral's List of Things Not to Suggest Immoral's Mapping Guide Forum Spammers Name (Number of spamming citations issued) Nikku (3), -KRUX- (2), Mitchell (2), hunter (2), Gneralas (2), CHAY (2), vyvu (2), Rustie1821 (1), w00t (1), dagny (1), Nandu666 (1), The.Raver(1), moecomputer (1), -=Jouni=- (1), santa_kills (1), DarknessGlams (1)

|2enegade

Posted: February 15, 2005 07:34 am

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QUOTE (_CiviliaN^SoldieR_ @ Feb 13 2005, 12:10 AM)

QUOTE (|2enegade @ Feb 12 2005, 08:54 PM)

I think Hobo put it nice and simple. To add to that:
if a zombie was smart enough to fake his own death, don't you think he'd be smart enough/capable of using a weapon?
zombies with guns..... somehow I don't think that would fly right.... not in BB anywas....

In your brilliant zombie theory thread, you explain that a zombie's instinct is to kill, surely a 'play-dead-' tactic is a way of hunting, whereas using a gun, is machinery, a technique.

1. Hold properly
2. Aim
3. Pull trigger
4. Keep aim after shot
5. Reload

And so fourth, for someone who can barely moving wouldn't that be hard?

One important aspect to keep in mind: My zombie theory is independent of games and or stories.
My zombies would not make good "theatrical" or "gaming" zombies. This is why "my zombies" exist only in the zombie theory thread and no where else (for the time being...). Even in my own story Delerium I don't use "my zombies".
Especially in BrainBread, I don't think they should use the zombies from my theory. That being said, even "my zombies" are not smart enough to play dead since they are not capable of higher levels of thinking, and thus advanced problem solving, due to the deterioration of their frontal, left, and right lobes.

This post has been edited by |2enegade on February 16, 2005 11:55 pm

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Elite viking	Posted: February 15, 2005 06:56 pm
Veteran Lord Carnage Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 2471 Joined: December 16, 2004	Bodies lying on the ground, head intact. Oh, he must be sleeping right? So just walk past it. CHOMP! You lost. If there were zombie bodies lying around, people would have gotten maaad shootin everything on the ground a lot of times. Then they would get eaten by walking zombies from behind. Shame, really.

Blue Summer

Posted: February 15, 2005 07:27 pm

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QUOTE (_CiviliaN^SoldieR_ @ Feb 12 2005, 01:05 PM)

QUOTE (Hobo Ninja @ Feb 12 2005, 02:59 AM)

You really think Zombies are smart enough to fake there death? No...they only want warm flesh...they wouldn't lay down and wait for it they just go for it.

Hmm..

You assume zombies are stupid, but they could aswell be clever.

You don't know zombies are stupid, because a fleshing eating rotting zombie has never walked the earth.

Your so gonna get flamed by every zombie lover in the galaxy lol.

This post has been edited by Blue Summer on February 15, 2005 07:27 pm

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Brandon Heat	Posted: February 16, 2005 11:43 pm
Just another Survivor Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: February 06, 2005	I think this would be a good thing for BB, but a lil annoying. For the annoying part i can picture a glitch that once in awiel a zombie just wont die, and will keep getting bac kup over and over, but the idea that the head has to be gone for it to be dead i think is good.pictures noobs with AK47s spraying a zombie that is trying to get back up, then you walk over, the noobs stop cussing and look at you, you pull up a revolver and blow its head off, then quitely walk away --------------------

Zombie Hunter Austin	Posted: February 18, 2005 04:08 am
Just another Survivor Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: January 11, 2005	Before I post, I love GunGrave, waiting for it to come back on G4TechTv.. And now my post. I wouldn't like that becuse I'd use all my ammo on one zombie, using clip after clip and screaming into my mic like in one of those war movies when the people shoot mgs. And I don't think any of you would want to hear that. --------------------

hunter	Posted: February 18, 2005 10:25 pm
Fantasma Cazador Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 3702 Joined: December 08, 2004	immoral have u ever accepted a suggestion? why not this suggesten whats wrong with it? why do you have to put everything down! --------------------

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