- I think the M16 sound is a bit irritating and should be replaced with a slightly better sound quality. And the alternative 3 burst is crap and should be replaced with a silencer attachment for those classic CS fans

- But if all else fails, Replace the M16 with the M203 like the one from FireArms. M203, much like the M16 but with a powerful Grenade Launcher

- Also there should be a special item like a pair of binoculars and a radio, which you can use to call in Artillery fire and watch a horde of zombies be blown to bits by incoming mortars !

- There is a military explosive called a phosphorus grenade which can literally incinerate a human body, now imagine what that could do to an Undead Body ...

- With the HL military bots, they should be replaced with the Op4 Soldiers, First of all, they're a Shit Lot smarter than the HL Version (They are dumber than the zombies) , Secondly, Instead of the Mp5 they have the M16 and Saw Machine gun, Finaly, they should have the Heavy Weapons Grunt From Sven Coop, cause he packs a Minigun !

- Some Mines would be good aswell, especialy if you in need of a defensive weapon to hold a position

- Special Ammo for Special Weapons (Minigun,Flamethowers..) should be placed randomly around a map

- Finaly, Other than the Axe, there should be an asortment of Melee weapons, for example, Half-lifes Classic Crowbar, a Samuri Sword, a Machete and any other close-range weapon that was suggested

PS. Should have a psycho with hockey mask as a playable character ...

I agree with quite a few of these.

1) a silencer wouldn't matter because they zombies. The 3round burst is good, i use it all the time.

2) Technicaly it's still the m16 but it's got an ugl (underslung grenade launcher) in this case the m203 so in reality it's called the m16 with the m203 attachment but i do want to be besides the sea side, oops i mean i would like an m203.

3)Radio been suggested in another thread, it'd be alright but could possibly ruin the game it could be made much better with hl2.

4)I <3 teh phosphorus grenades. Were trying to get away from the fact: WE ARE NOT MARINES. We are suvivors, where could we get it from? I don't like the idea: "from dead marines" or "marines can drop them". Sorry but we already have a flame that takes skill to master.

5)I totaly agree but no minigun! Would make it unfair, i realy like the SAW and the m16 for them. But something inside my wants to replace the m16 with a shotgun. So a shotgun and saw marines would be best.

6) Once again to army like. The mods have said they'l implement an explosive anyways.

7)Yes.

8) Nah, were getting the chainsaw soon anyways.

9) Yes we do need optional hocky mask like players.

White phosphorous grenades actually work better on living humans because when you are alive there is more oxygen in your body to fuel the chemical reaction. That stuff is nasty, if you put a chunk of it on the top of someones head, it would burn straight through to the ground, you actually have to carve it out of the body with a knife to get it out. Oh and if that weren't the worst of it, its poisonous in doses of 50 mg and exposure to it causes "necrosis," cellular death, in the cells of your jaw. FUN STUFF!!!

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a silencer attachment for those classic CS fans

Please don't mention "it". This "mods" bad influence ruined enough promising mods already.

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Replace the M16 with the M203

Adding a m203 to the M16 would be very unbalancing, since the M16 is already one of the best weapons in the game and other weapons wouldn't have a grenade launcher.

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call in Artillery fire

Devs are already going to implement an explosive weapon for crowd control, so adding another (which would require a lot of additional coding BTW) isn't necessary.

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- There is a military explosive called a phosphorus grenade which can literally incinerate a human body, now imagine what that could do to an Undead Body ...

The area of effect is very small, so hitting a moving humanoid with it is next to impossible. It's main use is to clear out fortifications and to destroy/blind vehicles. Just place it in front of a bunkers door and the whole oxigen inside will be sucked out, so everyone inside would suffocate.

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they're a Shit Lot smarter than the HL Version

I wonder why poeple keep saying that? The only thing the grunts are required to do is stand around and shoot zombies. OP4 grunts would act exactly the same way. The only thing they can do is following you around like barney which appears to give poeple the impression of them being smarter than their HL1 counterparts. Yeah sure there are some differences between the AI routines, but they're mainly cosmetic or to make them maneuvre the terrain better (which is not required).

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- Some Mines would be good

Again a less usefull explosive weapon which would only create more lag, since poeple would probably start to spam whole areas with them.

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Special Ammo for Special Weapons (Minigun,Flamethowers..) should be placed randomly around a map

Has been suggested before, but no official statement as of yet.

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there should be an asortment of Melee weapons

There is still the problem with HL1 limitations: for every weapon added another must go. Having a big arsenal of melee weapons would reduce the numbers of the more usefull firearms, so the idea is to have few but very different and usefull melee weapons.

not gonna make my long usual comments, because everything you suggested, has been suggested before. (actually sounds like a list of what has been suggested the past month).

the special ammo: that would require extra models. forget it. might not happen with the regular ammo boxes either. basicly the minigun already has a huge amount of ammo. and the flame thrower is the best crowdcontrol weapon yer gonna get (though the ammo could be a bit more on that one). they only have one negative side and thats the problem of only beeing able to use it once.

melee weapons: chainsaw is comming in the future. for now, the axe is the most likely thing you'll be able to find once the zombies are about.

the rest: no. for reasons mentioned, now and in the past.

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not gonna make my long usual comments, because everything you suggested, has been suggested before. (actually sounds like a list of what has been suggested the past month). the special ammo: that would require extra models. forget it. might not happen with the regular ammo boxes either. basicly the minigun already has a huge amount of ammo. and the flame thrower is the best crowdcontrol weapon yer gonna get (though the ammo could be a bit more on that one). they only have one negative side and thats the problem of only beeing able to use it once. melee weapons: chainsaw is comming in the future. for now, the axe is the most likely thing you'll be able to find once the zombies are about. the rest: no. for reasons mentioned, now and in the past.

Could you at least change the sound of the M16 ?, it's really annoying ...

As for the radio idea, well sorry if i brought that up if it was used, but what if it was a "Use Once Only Per Round" kind of weapon ?, just in case things got out control like a whole lot of Zombies flooding the spawn ?. That way it wont be spammed and unbalance the entire game ...

Minor audio and visual alterations are very low on the change list docket, so don't expect new sounds to get priority over other things. Also, other people don't find it annoying, further decreasing the chances of that change occuring...

Making a once / round item does NOT simplify the coding process in any manner, so reducing it to that will not work.

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PS. Should have a psycho with hockey mask as a playable character ...

Awesome! Jason vs. the zombies vs. the survivors vs. the army vs. fred!

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Just make a custom model... if people have the time to make/rip naked women models, I think they could do a Jason one...

a radio to call in artilary to destroy the zombies would make the game way to easy.....also u gotta think some ppl would abuse that

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