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Seth Walker
Posted: March 16, 2005 02:06 am
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Hello my name is Seth Walker and I work for Oraculus Studios. I am from Public Relations and a general consultant from the Half-Life mod, Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect.

It has been brought to our attention that a lot of our models have appeared in a recent Resident Evil Model Pack for the Half-Life modification, Brain Bread. This was brought to our attention when a new Oraculus Studios team member who frequents these forums pointed this out to us. Almost half of our object models have been used in this map pack.

Before this thread turns into an all out war, I have already gathered proof to show what has been stolen. In the series of images to follow, Ive opened up the folders for the Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect Alpha model folder (top window) and the map pack used (bottom window). I also have two pictures for each example: One with the proof of the source folders and creation dates, and then the models.

This first image shows our bookcase for the RPD.

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The model on the left is the Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect Model. The one on the right is the Brain Bread Map Pack. Next are the two properties of the files, lined up for comparison on creation dates.

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As you may notice, the creation date says July 20th, 2004. Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect was just beginning right then. To my knowledge, Brain Bread has just recently been released, and the Model/Map pack was created near the end of December 2004, Early January 2005. So why would the Map models have a date well before the idea of the map pack came to be?

This next example is a comparison of the lady statue from Resident Evil 2 for our Raccoon City Police Department (RPD) Map.

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This time the Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect Model is on the upper right, while the Brain Bread Map Pack one is on the lower right. I put them this way so you can see the file names in their respective folders. The next image is once again the properties for each model.

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Please notice the end file extensions as well as the dates. This is proof that Im not just placing models into folders for the fun of it. The model was created on July 31st, 2004. Way before this model pack was released.

The final image is a side by side comparison of the pedestal used in our RPD map. This is the pedestal used in the room where Leon (or Claire) sees the licker run by the window. In the center of the room there is a round pillar like table.

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Once more the date is a key factor. The two models presented are the one from Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect and the Brain Bread Map Pack. Also notice in the folder for Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect, the model named Chessthing. This was the first concept of the model you see before you.

After a bit of working around and checking IP addresses we found out who had leaked our models to the public. On our forums (and many others) his name is Temp; a sad man who wants nothing but his own personal gain. Betrayal and cutthroat tactics are his game. On the Brain Bread forums his name is Memnon (A name similar to our own Texture Artist, Menome). He also uses the Alias _ without quotes. He came in contact with a few other forums members (Mainly [MGS] Liquid Snake) and distributed our models to him.

Posted below is a conversation with one of our mappers and [MGS] Liquid Snake:

[18:09:24] incy247: still how did you obtain those models?
[18:09:40] mr_bmw1@yaho: a guy that had this re mod
[18:09:44] incy247: name?
[18:09:52] incy247: and what mob
[18:09:53] incy247: mod*
[18:09:57] mr_bmw1@yaho: i am trying to get it
[18:09:59] incy247: kk
[18:12:29] mr_bmw1@yaho: this shit is taken forever
[18:12:31] incy247: lol
[18:12:37] mr_bmw1@yaho: lol
[18:12:42] incy247: got it yet/
[18:12:46] mr_bmw1@yaho: no
[18:13:49] mr_bmw1@yaho: resident evil to serve and protect something
like that
[18:16:06] incy247: was it Civilian Soldier who gave you the models?
[18:16:18] mr_bmw1@yaho: no no no
[18:16:21] incy247: temp?
[18:16:44] mr_bmw1@yaho: maybe it was him hold on i know where to look
now on the fourms of course
[18:18:12] mr_bmw1@yaho: man my thread is still alive damn
[18:18:35] incy247: keep trying to find the name plz
[18:18:41] mr_bmw1@yaho: k
[18:19:21] mr_bmw1@yaho: memnon
[18:19:36] incy247: you sure?
[18:19:43] mr_bmw1@yaho: yep
[18:19:53] incy247: menome?
[18:20:14] incy247: can ya linkage me to the thread by any chance?
[18:20:20] mr_bmw1@yaho: i cant tell u about it actually becuase it is
a secret
[18:20:24] mr_bmw1@yaho: yeah
[18:20:42] incy247: A secret?
[18:20:50] mr_bmw1@yaho: yeah
[18:20:50] incy247: why is it a secret?
[18:21:18] mr_bmw1@yaho: becuase is has some neat stuff that bb doesnt
have that would make the game fucking awesome
[18:21:44] incy247: He?
[18:22:05] mr_bmw1@yaho: yeah he
[18:23:43] mr_bmw1@yaho: it was memnon
[18:25:01] mr_bmw1@yaho: temp = memnon
[18:25:33] mr_bmw1@yaho: right?
[18:26:22] incy247: is that for sure?
[18:26:30] mr_bmw1@yaho: here is the mod
[18:26:41] mr_bmw1@yaho: http://mods.moddb.com/3330/
[18:27:03] mr_bmw1@yaho: o shit thats ur mom
[18:27:06] mr_bmw1@yaho: ymod
[18:27:09] incy247: Yes it is

So here I am to ask of a simple request from the people who run Brain Bread. As of right now, there is no way we could possibly stop the map pack from circulating or being downloaded. Its a stupid thing to think. But we would like for those who created the map pack (I believe it is Rusty, Omega 1.5, and [MGS] Liquid Snake) to credit us for the models at the end of this post. If you need proof like the pictures above, I will be happy to get more pictures for you.

If you can put that the models were taken from the Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect Modification in your map pack and wherever that map pack is distributed, we on the Oraculus Studios team would greatly appreciate it. Also we would like for the people on the Brain Bread Team to post on their main page about this incident, as to inform the community on the problem and that it has been solved.

The last thing I want is for us to be on bad terms with the folks at Brain Bread. Like those on the Oraculus Studios team, the staff at Brain Bread put their heart into the work they do. They work really hard and have created some really great games. It is sad and unfortunate that something like this has happened, but I know the situation can be resolved peacefully.

We thank you in advance for your time and cooperation.

Seth Walker, General Consultant / Public Relations Guru

Here is a list of the models taken from our FTP. These are the names used in both our modification as well as the Brain Bread Map pack, except for the RPD Statue. Please credit these to Resident Evil: To Serve and Protect

bookcase
chair-fix
lightlong
light-short
roomlight
RPDstatue2 (Named RPD_Staute on RE:TSP)

These are the models we have confirmed are circulating. We have heard rumors of even more but have yet to prove those missing
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Posted: March 16, 2005 04:41 pm
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Posted: March 16, 2005 07:15 pm
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i had no idea that stuff was from you guys mod. sry about that guy leaking your stuff though. you'll have to tell this to omega sense he's the one doing the map. i've just been helping him with models and stuff (i'm guessing he got the models from liquid snake sense i didn't have them before the last map update) hmm btw where has omega been lately? i haven't seen him around.
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Posted: March 16, 2005 07:20 pm
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Cheating scum bags! Get your own models and stop using this brilliant mods hard work.


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Posted: March 16, 2005 09:23 pm
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QUOTE (hunter @ Mar 16 2005, 01:20 PM)
Cheating scum bags! Get your own models and stop using this brilliant mods hard work.

you are the king of idiots.. sleep.gif
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Posted: March 16, 2005 09:29 pm
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QUOTE (-Rusty- @ Mar 16 2005, 08:23 PM)
QUOTE (hunter @ Mar 16 2005, 01:20 PM)
Cheating scum bags! Get your own models and stop using this brilliant mods hard work.

you are the king of idiots.. sleep.gif

Now now children. Lets just all calm down, oh and-Rusty- that must make you kind of an idiot for calling an diot an idiot. But then that would make ME an idiot for defending my idiot friend. And so on...

EDIT: When is the alpha coming out, its like 8:30 in UK and i've been waiting since like 3:30. Central is -6 hours isnt it???

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Posted: March 16, 2005 09:38 pm
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Whats the website to the site i forgot


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Posted: March 16, 2005 09:40 pm
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QUOTE (SirAlucard @ Mar 16 2005, 03:29 PM)
QUOTE (-Rusty- @ Mar 16 2005, 08:23 PM)
QUOTE (hunter @ Mar 16 2005, 01:20 PM)
Cheating scum bags! Get your own models and stop using this brilliant mods hard work.

you are the king of idiots.. sleep.gif

Now now children. Lets just all calm down, oh and-Rusty- that must make you kind of an idiot for calling an diot an idiot. But then that would make ME an idiot for defending my idiot friend. And so on...

EDIT: When is the alpha coming out, its like 8:30 in UK and i've been waiting since like 3:30. Central is -6 hours isnt it???

yeah perhaps, but i call him this because he assumes that me, omega, and liquid snake distributed the models(which i didn't because i had nothing to do with whatever was going on) i really wish that the devs of that mod would have contacted me about this because i just found out about it by reading this thread.
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Posted: March 16, 2005 09:49 pm
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Well, rusty, i was spending most of the time defeding you.


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Posted: March 16, 2005 10:08 pm
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yeah thanks.. but that chaos guy still thinks i've been distributing them sad.gif
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Posted: March 16, 2005 10:09 pm
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How could you, i didnt even know that you had?

I think the RETSP guys are jealous at ur skill, accually i shouldnt say that...


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Posted: March 16, 2005 10:14 pm
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QUOTE (SirAlucard @ Mar 16 2005, 04:09 PM)
How could you, i didnt even know that you had?

I think the RETSP guys are jealous at ur skill, accually i shouldnt say that...

well i don't think they're jealous. i donno what the deal is with them though, i went to the site to try and tell them but the guy thinks i'm one of main people who has been passing around the models. the only models i have are the ones that i had gotten from omega's map, and i had only gotten them when he had released the currenct version of the rpd map along with everyone else on the forum.
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Posted: March 16, 2005 10:48 pm
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Dont use them full stop!


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Posted: March 16, 2005 11:53 pm
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Is anyone going to tell me where i can get the webiste fo this RE mood please i would like to knwo if you guys know thanks.


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Posted: March 16, 2005 11:58 pm
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