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What a bad attitude dude! Theres always one that you prefer more than other. Theres never a candidate thats perfect to everyone you just have to make the best of them win, even if its choosing from 2 evils the least, because of people like you the fanatical idiot got voted in like 2 times? Also whats wrong with Obama, seems like a reasonable guy compared to religious fanatics of republicans and crazy Hillary. Also is there even such a thing like independent candidate in US, haven't heard about it how can he be nominated?

America is fucked up with the voting. Only two major political parties. Two. It's bullshit. Either way, our Senators are more important than the President. Hell, voting for your local mayor has more of an impact on your life than the President.

You never heard of Checks and Balances I presume.

Yes, as I'm not american you know. Of course the president doesn't declare war or something single, the congress must agree or whats the procedure there, but what difference does it make? If the president doesn't support it it isn't happening, so you gotta be wise about what you vote there.

mallic, what is so good about him, what sets him away from all the other republican fanatics. Also whats his stance on embryonic stem cell research and possible use in future?

But they are all indeed religious fanatics from what I see living in a completely different part on the earth, just some more than others, so its better to support those that aren't totally lost. Also what you said only matters when the congress is strong enough eh (which was not the case with stem cell thing?) Maybe you guys misunderstood me, I'm not saying president is the only important thing to care about but its one of them, you gotta be wise about anything you vote about and not caring is just dumb tbh, I mean the guy you vote in will represent your country and you want it look good eh?

This post has been edited by Smachine on May 16, 2008 05:33 pm

But they are all indeed religious fanatics from what I see living in a completely different part on the earth, just some more than others, so its better to support those that aren't totally lost. Also what you said only matters when the congress is strong enough eh (which was not the case with stem cell thing?) Maybe you guys misunderstood me, I'm not saying president is the only important thing to care about but its one of them, you gotta be wise about anything you vote about and not caring is just dumb tbh, I mean the guy you vote in will represent your country and you want it look good eh?

You're forgetting the part where the popular vote means jack-shit.

He means the popular vote means jack-shit. There's nothing to be wise about in voting for the president, as the election of a presidential candidate is unfortunately decided by the electoral college instead of the popular vote.

From my knowledge, the popular vote only holds sway in electing representatives and senators. Fuck voting for a commander-in-chief if it doesn't do anything other than show worthless statistics.

This post has been edited by Security Corporate on May 17, 2008 02:34 am

He means the popular vote means jack-shit. There's nothing to be wise about in voting for the president, as the election of a presidential candidate is unfortunately decided by the electoral college instead of the popular vote.

From my knowledge, the popular vote only holds sway in electing representatives and senators. Fuck voting for a commander-in-chief if it doesn't do anything other than show worthless statistics.

So you are saying that Bush didn't vetoed alone the founding of embryonic stem cell research? From what I have viewed on net all other instances where not against this. Maybe you just care about how well the trash is taken out or how good the streets are? This is a pretty hot thing in other places as well, like UK, its a shame that so many people don;t realize the big potential in medicine with it. I'm sure if a democratic party candidate where won instead of Bush he would have been more sensible about this.

This post has been edited by Smachine on May 20, 2008 08:48 pm

He means the popular vote means jack-shit. There's nothing to be wise about in voting for the president, as the election of a presidential candidate is unfortunately decided by the electoral college instead of the popular vote.

From my knowledge, the popular vote only holds sway in electing representatives and senators. Fuck voting for a commander-in-chief if it doesn't do anything other than show worthless statistics.

So you are saying that Bush didn't vetoed alone the founding of embryonic stem cell research? From what I have viewed on net all other instances where not against this. Maybe you just care about how well the trash is taken out or how good the streets are? This is a pretty hot thing in other places as well, like UK, its a shame that so many people don;t realize the big potential in medicine with it. I'm sure if a democratic party candidate where won instead of Bush he would have been more sensible about this.

What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything we've been discussing?

Anyway getting to answering you, yes, the majority of Capitalist America agreed with Bush and is too stupid to recognize the meaning of scientific and technological advancement. However, it was Bush's decision to veto it. There's nothing the people could have done to stop that.

This post has been edited by Security Corporate on May 21, 2008 02:57 am

Umm, how about not voting for him (or any republican for that matter) in first place? This was my point from whole beginning on stepping into this discussion. You think its not an important research maybe? mallic, and you don't call that a big influence and power on important decisions president has to make?