The Inevitable 'Gay Marriage' Topic, Don't Close Topic

I would like to point you in the directions of Ancient Greece, when it was perfectly normal for a wise "learned" man to keep a few boys as sexual slaves, as well as concubines. You could also note that in Roman times there were great festivals in public where dozens or even hundreds. of men would form a "congo line" (you can see where this is going, everyone has a good time). Several Emporers even took part in these events, I believe the record is just over a thousand men in a single "unbroken" line. You were not considered gay if you had sex with another man in these societies. As you can see, to say that the world is becoming mroe liberal and maybe immoral is totally wrong - people were shagging around in the street thousands of years ago, less so nowadays.

In more recent times, there are counries where, similarly, men and women have same-sex intercourse and are not necessarily considered as homosexual, because they do not "love" same-sex partners.

And who are we to infringe upon a person's right to love and have sex or do whatever with whoever they damn well want to. Should we outlaw non-procreative sex such as oral sex? Of course not, that's just a bible bashing Victorian view that sex is "dirty". If, however you feel that sex should be limited to people who are married then ok, fair enough, but if you push that idea on other people and other cultures, then what's to say that you can't govern what people eat, what they say, where they go, how to go there, etc...

This is the way with all social norms - people always subconsciously consider themselves as "normal" and other people as "alien". The "aliens" are obviously wrong, since they do not conform to our views and standards, (despite wildly different cultural history and necessity). I hope everyone here remembers the Nazi movement in Germany, and the Taliban in Iraq - they both wanted to impress upon other people their own values and opinions, even by force if necessary. I hope that we are clever enough to realise that it's none of our concern how another being spends their limited time here on Earth.

Well, you have to start somewhere. Baby steps, if you will. Two censuntual adults seems quite all right.

Religeon has caused alot of grief in the world but that isn't religeons fault it's the people who believe in their religion who aren't mature enough to accept their own opinions and the opinions of others.

Yeah agree, religion messes the world up, actually moving away from it (enlightment) is what made the world a lot safer and stable. Most of religions try to keep people in fear as its easy to control them then.

it´s homosexual for men, gay is for men and woman alike.

My view...

I have no problem whatsoever, but i think it´s really hipocritic from the church to say no to it, oh so, they assume everyone in the earth is catholic for one (therefore when they say no because god says it´s wrong, it´s for everyone, even those that don´t believe?) plus even if everyone was catholic, doesn´t the bible say god is all forgiving? so technicly no one that´s gay will go to "hell"? right?

I think you can see where i´m getting at here...

i dont trust the church...

priests having sex with small boys... its just wrong...
and if its not that then they rape the girls that are in the church garden..

priests are such hypocrites