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Mkilbride
Posted: December 21, 2004 03:01 am
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Ok,I know this is gona sound weird,and way to tech and way to real but...the flamethrower...its out place,its banned from war,"Crimes against humanity"
After world war II,And it rather lags the server,and rarely anyone ever gets it,and its just a waste o space in my Opinion,I think it should be replaced,I do not know what with,but I def dont think it should remain. Also the Minigun? honestly guys who else than Rambo ,or arnold uses one in the military anymore,once Again i know this is a fun mod,but the Minigun,is also out of place,and really isnt to usefull considering how its,not useable once its out of ammo,it can get quite annoying,and while its effective,I find using a normal handgun or automatic rifle,often works better,therefore I see the minigun as a Weapon that should once again be replaced,with what I do not know,but I def know it should go,remember this is JUST my OPINION,im not STATING anything*Cough(Renegade)Cough*

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Posted: December 21, 2004 03:06 am
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I think the flamethrower should be replaced with those new gernades the army uses. Like they are called Flame nades o something. When they explode its like fire every where?


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Posted: December 21, 2004 03:10 am
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Posted: December 21, 2004 03:12 am
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Yeah that.....


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Posted: December 21, 2004 04:24 am
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although flamethrowers were banned, remember that after world war I so were machine guns... Von Clausewitz said, basically, that fighting a war by rules was a silly thing to do and would only get more of your own men killed

but i digress... a flamethrower is fairly easily made from household items. If you are so inclined, replace the skin with a can of hairspray and a lighter.
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Posted: December 21, 2004 04:44 am
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Mkilbride, you failed to notice the one thing the devs base everything in the mod off of... which is weither or not it feels right, legal or otherwise. And what is not to love about setting a large pile of rotting flesh on fire and watching them burn to death... again.

By the way, lots of things are banned from war, yet we use them. Large caliber weaponary against infentry is one of the frequent violations. But does it happen? Yes. Does it get punished? No.

The minigun should be kept, and it is very effective, controlled bursts will net you far more kills than rifles. The balancing factor is not being able to reload...


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Posted: December 21, 2004 03:23 pm
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I like the idea of the hairspray can and a lighter idea.


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Posted: December 21, 2004 03:29 pm
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I think we should be more civil and have a nice long talk with these zombies.

I want to see a crossbow like the one from hl2 with the heated rebar.

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Posted: December 22, 2004 05:54 am
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id like to see a rocket launcher adn you had 2 rockets but you had to have like 8 skill pts. to use it tho


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Posted: December 22, 2004 03:29 pm
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Crossbow - Would be an interesting weapon should the BB team remove all the unused PE weapons. With some tweaking I think it would be very good, one shot kill to head/body with low ammo reserve count and reloading each shot. Damage would have to be tweaked so it doesn't become an "uber fred killer"

Rocket Launcher - No, just no... The devs already vetoed a grenade laucher idea so they are not going to add a rocket launcher.


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QUOTE (Immoral Sniper @ Dec 21 2004, 04:44 AM)
Mkilbride, you failed to notice the one thing the devs base everything in the mod off of... which is weither or not it feels right, legal or otherwise. And what is not to love about setting a large pile of rotting flesh on fire and watching them burn to death... again.

By the way, lots of things are banned from war, yet we use them. Large caliber weaponary against infentry is one of the frequent violations. But does it happen? Yes. Does it get punished? No.

The minigun should be kept, and it is very effective, controlled bursts will net you far more kills than rifles. The balancing factor is not being able to reload...

i nkow this is a fun mod but a minigun isnt a real man portaable weapon... well you cna carry it if ur strong but recoil would send u flyin so it needs to be replaced.


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Posted: January 02, 2005 06:23 am
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Uh? You just contradicted yourself... you say "I nkow[sic] this is a fun mod" In doing so the mod is no longer bound by physics and realism. Simply because the minigun is not feasibly man portable and firable is NOT grounds for removal and replacement. By the same token I could say zombies are not feasible and as such, should be removed.

It fits BB's theme well and as such will be staying unless the dev's have a change of heart on the matter. The only, remote, possibility is a heavy machine gun substitution, and that is not likely at all.


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QUOTE (Immoral Sniper @ Jan 2 2005, 06:23 AM)
Uh? You just contradicted yourself... you say "I nkow[sic] this is a fun mod" In doing so the mod is no longer bound by physics and realism. Simply because the minigun is not feasibly man portable and firable is NOT grounds for removal and replacement. By the same token I could say zombies are not feasible and as such, should be removed.

It fits BB's theme well and as such will be staying unless the dev's have a change of heart on the matter. The only, remote, possibility is a heavy machine gun substitution, and that is not likely at all.

i know but still cant me make this game atleast a LITTLE realistic instead of minigun put a m249 or something that is actually portable and fireable by a man cause the minigun ways to much and has to much recoil so it would just send the minigun flying out of ur hands. 'Nuff said


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Posted: January 02, 2005 09:50 am
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Minigun is too heavy to be sent flying out of your hands, heavy guns have less recoil for your info.
Just because flamethrowers were banned by the geneva convention, doesn't mean they don't exist. The geneva convention was made to prevent monstrous abuses against humanity in times of war, even though zombies WERE humans, they're nothing but savage monsters now. In fact flamethrowers are currently used now in "prescribed burning", where they burn dead brush and dry ground cover to prevent it from accumulating into a fire they can't control. You can also easily make a flamethrower, you just need a canister for fuel, a carbon dioxide canister like from a paintball gun, pressure tubing and piping, a spark plug and some batteries. The military could whip that up no problem. They would more than likely need some portable way to destroy the bodies and flamethrowers would be an ideal solution.



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Posted: January 02, 2005 03:15 pm
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maybe if they put the gattling gun on some sort of stand and u can only mount it not carry it like the 50 cal off hl1. In my opinion i dont like the falmethrower the flame affects on the hl1 engine arr rubish and it also lags so maybe reintroduce the flamer if we convert to source


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