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Posted: March 24, 2005 03:57 pm
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Maybe that could be interpreted as JesusFoe...



I'm not offended by any name, because an alias may (though it doesn't in this case) represent the authors opinion, which must be respected.


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Posted: March 24, 2005 05:00 pm
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QUOTE (gamersha794 @ Mar 24 2005, 09:50 AM)
I thought it was Fu as in Kung Fu.

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Posted: March 24, 2005 07:41 pm
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Then you're saying through misinterpretation that I should be reprimanded for other people's inability to comprehend that my name isn't a slang acronym for "f**k you".


Thats exactly what i'm saying. I'm trying to say this without being racist but: Christians are notorious for twisting everything you say into omg you hate god. I was mod for a short time on a dodgey christian forum for a while don't ask m8 got involved.

I'm not saying all christians but there are a hardcore bunch also there are dicks out there who will twist your name to mean anything just to get you in the shit.

I'l vote on number 2.


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Posted: March 24, 2005 10:21 pm
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QUOTE (JesusFoo @ Mar 24 2005, 10:37 AM)
Then you're saying through misinterpretation that I should be reprimanded for other people's inability to comprehend that my name isn't a slang acronym for "f**k you". I'm not seeing your point here, why should I have to deal with an erroneous, nonsensical name because (what i seem to believe) is some religious bias. And to interpret "Fu" as a "f**k you* wouldn't it have to be along the line of FU or F.U. or F_U_ . All I'm asking for is my name to be returned as I had it before, and if I can't get that, I will kindly leave your forums.

Not to be cocky or anything, but I am very literarily inclined and I myself read it as "Jesus F you". So if I read it as such, you could only imagine how many others would read it as such too. Infact, this is not so much for my or others' benefit, but more so for your own. The first thought that came to my mind when I saw your name was "oh, here's another attention deprived little kid who thinks he'll be cool by slandering the name of a religious figure head". Of course I know differently now, but ultimately the misinterpretation is on your part. You sound very intelligent, thus you should realize that the majority of people would interperet your name as I have. The bias has been placed on you by no one other than yourself. Since kung-fu is spelled with a "-" between kung and fu, it stands that if you intend for it to read "Jesus foo" you require a "-" between "Jesus" and "Fu".
If I were to name myself "NigGer" and claim it is because I am part Nigerian and part German, would it not be foolish of me to bitch when a mod has changed my name for obvious offensive reasons?
If I were to name myself "FagGotDie" and claim it is because I am from Britain (cigarette=fag) and once traded a cigarette for a die, would it not be foolish of me to bitch when a mod changes my name for obvious offensive reasons?

Ultimately, you are in the wrong. The ownace is on you to find a suitable name, and if it is not, the ownace is on you to accept whatever comprise is deemed as acceptable. In my personal opinion, this all could have been avoided had you added a "-" between "Jesus" and "Fu".

p.s. @ Blue, though it is obvious you have had past experience, I must say from my own personal experience, Christains are notorious for not taking offense to such things. I personally, as a believer in Jesus, take many Jesus slanders and jokes light-heartedly (so long as they are in good taste). This is probably because Christianity is one of the largest religions in the world and can withstand repeated blows and comedial pokes at its figure heads. If one can offend another by slandering one's faith, than one's faith is not that strong to begin with. wink.gif


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Posted: March 24, 2005 10:40 pm
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You ever met the american christians? <Shudders>


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Posted: March 24, 2005 10:53 pm
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|2enegade explained better than I could why I have changed the name, thanks. It is mentioned, that no content that obviously may offend people should be posted, and this includes the forumname.


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Posted: March 24, 2005 11:50 pm
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|2enegade, as I see your point in how one can misinterpret my name, I definitely disagree with any example you provided. You are basically spelling out inappropriate words, when Fu is in no way an objectional word in itself. As far as religion goes, I have the entire right to use any such name I want, whenever I want, however I want, and to take any kind of personal offense (which i doubt you do) to my name is one's own problem, not mine. Undoubtedly, you are in the wrong for misinterpretting it, and I am in the wrong for bringing fourth something that can be misinterpretted.

However, I disagree that any action should've been taken against my name for the argument against me still holds very little water (if any at all), and I will not apologize for reasoning so.


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Posted: March 25, 2005 06:44 am
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QUOTE (JesusFoo @ Mar 24 2005, 11:50 PM)
|2enegade, as I see your point in how one can misinterpret my name, I definitely disagree with any example you provided. You are basically spelling out inappropriate words, when Fu is in no way an objectional word in itself.

"Nig" is not an objective word in and of itself, and neither is "Ger". But when combined, they form the offensive slang I analogized in my previous post. "FU", for the most part, is not objectively offensive, but when combined with Jesus, to form "JesusFu", then it can easily be interpreted as intentionally offensive. Thus both my examples apply to your situation perfectly. You are basically spelling out easily interpreted inappropriateness as well.

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  As far as religion goes, I have the entire right to use any such name I want, whenever I want, however I want, and to take any kind of personal offense (which i doubt you do) to my name is one's own problem, not mine.

I'm not sure what you are vying for here. No one is arguing your rights in the standpoint of religion. The issue here is your rights in the standpoint of these forums. And one of them does not include the right to choose a name that can be offensive through common interpretation. Ultimately your thinking is unsociable and uncivilized. If society held your opinion then one could walk around sexually, phsyically, and verbally harrasing another, claiming in defence, "if anyone takes offense to that, then it is their problem."

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Undoubtedly, you are in the wrong for misinterpretting it, and I am in the wrong for bringing fourth something that can be misinterpretted.
However, I disagree that any action should've been taken against my name for the argument against me still holds very little water (if any at all), and I will not apologize for reasoning so.

Undoubtedly you lack the common sense to realize that it would be interpreted as such. I am not wrong for intepreting something that, in all likelyhood, should be interpreted as I interpreted it. If you walk around the street waving a gun and strap c4 sticks to your chest and the police intepret you as a threat, would you not think it foolish if your defence relied on the fact that you really meant no harm, but just wanted to see how it felt to do so, and that the police are wrong for misinterpreting you as a threat? For that would be an extremely poor and foolish defence.
No one is asking you for an apology. You merely just need to accept that you have errored in your name selection and accept the remedy provided for you by the admins.


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Posted: March 25, 2005 12:06 pm
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[QUOTE]"FU", for the most part, is not objectively offensive, but when combined with Jesus, to form "JesusFu", then it can easily be interpreted as intentionally offensive.[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, not quite. Infact, not at all.

[QUOTE]And one of them does not include the right to choose a name that can be offensive through common interpretation. Ultimately your thinking is unsociable and uncivilized. [/QUOTE]

Common interpretation? As far as my numbers go, it is incommon to interpret my name offensively, please rethink your argument and comeback to me PERSONALLY OFF THE FORUMS as you are apparently incapable of doing so, and please do not use the falicies that have shown to proven that you have only NO argument against me as you have shown thus far. If you wish to bring up a working argument, you must first THINK. I know this concept of using the brain to be extreme to you, but please try it if you choose to be intellectual on the subject with me.

[QUOTE]If society held your opinion then one could walk around sexually, phsyically, and verbally harrasing another, claiming in defence, "if anyone takes offense to that, then it is their problem."[/QUOTE]

I know you like to jump to conclusions about myself, but please do not be hyprocritical and attempt to attack me in a form I have not ever shown myself to be. You are clearly using the defensive strategy of "making shit up". I'm sorry, but welcome to the real world, that doesn't work here.

[/QUOTE]Undoubtedly you lack the common sense to realize that it would be interpreted as such. I am not wrong for intepreting something that, in all likelyhood, should be interpreted as I interpreted it. If you walk around the street waving a gun and strap c4 sticks to your chest and the police intepret you as a threat, would you not think it foolish if your defence relied on the fact that you really meant no harm, but just wanted to see how it felt to do so, and that the police are wrong for misinterpreting you as a threat? For that would be an extremely poor and foolish defence.
No one is asking you for an apology. You merely just need to accept that you have errored in your name selection and accept the remedy provided for you by the admins. [QUOTE]

I lack the common sense? Please do not try and explain me to me. "Undoubtedly" you are severly pigheaded on the idea that I was trying to "attack" a person through my nickname. You are of religious bias, which holds no foundation in the real world. If you are offended, that is your own problem. Religious bias does not hold true to pratical situations such as a PHYSICAL HARMFUL situation to surrounding civilians as a person strapped to c4 and a handgun. Once again, your argument is simply rhetoric. If you cannot accompany your ideas with a working argument I will simply ask you to abstain from posting again. You apparently seem incapable of making a true argument without SEVERE holes and lack of any kind of SUPPORT. I won't ask you again to stop if you cannot bring fourth a working idea. In layman's terms... you hold no water to anything you say and your structure is simply without any kind of logical sense.

I will not accept that I have errored in my name, I will however accept that there are people so severely obstuse like yourself that seem to have the common misconception that my name is attack in some nature towards religion. I am sorry, but your ignorance has proven to be most disgusting. I will however accept the admins remedy as this is THEIR domain, and not yours. For you to justify a ridiculous concept with unheard of biased bullshit is for yourself, however your only fault is that I don't give a shit about your completely unorganized and ill-thought out ideals. This is the admins forums and I will follow what they say. You are not of any deciding factor in my opinion and will not remain such until you form an argument worthy of a human being with a brain. Now please keep your terrible excuse for a challenge to yourself unless you choose to approach me personally in a private forum. I will not repeat myself.

|2enegade. You have a personal problem with me. That is a personal matter with me. If you need to air this in public because you are incapable of approaching me on a one on one basis that I am glad to learn that you have further made yourself a source of public mockery. I will not defend myself to you again as I feel that it brings the human being that I have become intellectually down and I will no longer lower myself to a substandard level for your amusement.

As far as this topic has gone, I am done, you have proven that you have no reasonable argument against me and that you are furthermore incapable of a reasonable rebuttle. I am kindly asking you to vacate from discussing this any further, and if you choose not to, then approach me directly. I am not on trial here and will NOT choose to defend myself to you or anybody, specifically because I consider yourself and your explanation for my name's meaning a joke.

So quit being obtuse, and e-mail me or something, because unless we talk on a one on one basis, I feel this argument could go on forever. I apologize for making remarks to you, but I won't apologize for who I am. My name represents who I am. And to attack that is to attack me. Contact me directly at johnebp on AIM. or log on to IRC on gamesurge.net and find my REAL NAME "JesusFu" and contact me directly. Ai am here for resolving of issues, not to produce new ones.

Let us end this.

Once and for all.


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Posted: March 25, 2005 02:00 pm
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Look, your making a mountain out of a molehill.
Tbh Renegade has show no predjudice towards you in any posts. Can we all just shut up, accept the changes towards you name and go play a nice game of BB?

Renegade?
Jesusfoo?

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Posted: March 25, 2005 02:36 pm
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Someone should make a forum for arguing.

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Posted: March 25, 2005 03:15 pm
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Someone shouldnt be so bloody touchy about "FU"

KungFU

Thats what I wouldve thought. Thats what anyone with more brains than a mindless flesh eating zombie should've worked out.


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Posted: March 25, 2005 07:52 pm
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Amen


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Posted: March 25, 2005 08:06 pm
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It seems like it says JesusFoo to me at least. The problem's sorted out?
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Posted: March 25, 2005 08:07 pm
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QUOTE (Elite viking @ Mar 25 2005, 08:06 PM)
It seems like it says JesusFoo to me at least. The problem's sorted out?

Yes. Lock.
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