IronOak studios forums -> Picking Up Weapons After Bullets Are Gone

	[ Resend Validation Email ]
	Welcome Guest [ Log In · Register ]

IronOak studios forums + BRAINBREAD - MUNDUS VULT DECIPI - WWW.IRONOAK.CH/BB + Suggestions / Vorschläge

Pages: 12 [ Go to first unread post ]

[ Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic ]

Picking Up Weapons After Bullets Are Gone

Brawler	Posted: February 02, 2005 08:45 pm
Rotten Meat Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: February 02, 2005	Should be able to pick up weapons after you run out of bullts and throw the gun away

(4THIDUSA) SSG H.	Posted: February 02, 2005 08:47 pm
Real zombie Nemesis Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: December 13, 2004	you can -------------------- www.4THIDUSA.com

Elite viking	Posted: February 02, 2005 10:03 pm
Veteran Lord Carnage Group: Old BB:S Betatesters Posts: 2471 Joined: December 16, 2004	And it will deal damage or something? I dont really understand the point of picking up empty guns... Or is all this about being able to throw a gun away and then pick another up? if so, its possible... Dont remember if the button is assigned or not... if assigned, mine is "g". Try that, and tell me how it works.

Immoral Sniper	Posted: February 02, 2005 10:14 pm
The force is strong in me Group: BB Betatesters Posts: 1177 Joined: December 10, 2004	If you throw an empty weapon away it dissappears forever, the devs did that to cut down on entities. However, none of us understand your exact point, please, elaborate. -------------------- BB Maps I've made... bb_stronghold {Beta 9} bb_shootingrange {Beta 1} Threads you should read before posting... Immoral's List of Things Not to Suggest Immoral's Mapping Guide Forum Spammers Name (Number of spamming citations issued) Nikku (3), -KRUX- (2), Mitchell (2), hunter (2), Gneralas (2), CHAY (2), vyvu (2), Rustie1821 (1), w00t (1), dagny (1), Nandu666 (1), The.Raver(1), moecomputer (1), -=Jouni=- (1), santa_kills (1), DarknessGlams (1)

Hobo Ninja

Posted: February 02, 2005 10:20 pm

Last hope of Mankind

Group: Members
Posts: 722

Joined: December 18, 2004

QUOTE (Immoral Sniper @ Feb 2 2005, 03:14 PM)

If you throw an empty weapon away it dissappears forever, the devs did that to cut down on entities.

However, none of us understand your exact point, please, elaborate.

It doesnt work...I have been picking up lots of empty weapons lately.....

Immoral Sniper

Posted: February 02, 2005 10:22 pm

The force is strong in me
Group Icon

Group: BB Betatesters
Posts: 1177

Joined: December 10, 2004

Then I guess that should go in the bug report forum:

QUOTE

- If an empty weapon is dropped it's automatically removed

- 1.2 changelog

As it was 'sposed to be done...

--------------------

BB Maps I've made...
bb_stronghold {Beta 9}
bb_shootingrange {Beta 1}

Threads you should read before posting...
Immoral's List of Things Not to Suggest
Immoral's Mapping Guide

Forum Spammers
Name (Number of spamming citations issued)
Nikku (3), -KRUX- (2), Mitchell (2), hunter (2), Gneralas (2), CHAY (2), vyvu (2), Rustie1821 (1), w00t (1), dagny (1), Nandu666 (1), The.Raver(1), moecomputer (1), -=Jouni=- (1), santa_kills (1), DarknessGlams (1)

Katayama	Posted: February 03, 2005 04:29 pm
Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: December 08, 2004	throwing empty weapons away for me disappear fine... i think he means wen u throw a gun away, you should be able to go bk and pik the gun up again from the original weapon pik up coz i remember you cant pik the same weapon up again but perhaps that bugs been fixed...cant remember :S maybe... --------------------

Immoral Sniper

Posted: February 03, 2005 04:49 pm

The force is strong in me
Group Icon

Group: BB Betatesters
Posts: 1177

Joined: December 10, 2004

QUOTE (Katayama @ Feb 3 2005, 10:29 AM)

you should be able to go bk and pik the gun up again from the original weapon pik up coz i remember you cant pik the same weapon up again but perhaps that bugs been fixed.

That is a feature, not a bug. The devs intentionally made it so you can not pick up from the same weapon spawn twice in one life to prevent weapon camping and spamming.

--------------------

zombieslaya

Posted: February 03, 2005 05:17 pm

Zombie Hunter

Group: Members
Posts: 178

Joined: January 20, 2005

QUOTE (Immoral Sniper @ Feb 3 2005, 04:49 PM)

QUOTE (Katayama @ Feb 3 2005, 10:29 AM)

you should be able to go bk and pik the gun up again from the original weapon pik up coz i remember you cant pik the same weapon up again but perhaps that bugs been fixed.

That is a feature, not a bug. The devs intentionally made it so you can not pick up from the same weapon spawn twice in one life to prevent weapon camping and spamming.

i really hate that becuase when i want to use the gas tank to take out a bunch of zombies or get a minigun again after its ammo's depleted, i have to die in order to get it again, i dont see why they did that cause weapons right after someone picks them up, also i think weapon camping should be considerd allright as long as someone else gets that weapon your camping as well, also another it sucks is that if i have to pick up the case and throw a weap away, i have to die to get that weapon back.

--------------------

My Story: 48 Stunden der reinen holle
My story of BB Source with forum members

Immoral Sniper	Posted: February 03, 2005 06:36 pm
The force is strong in me Group: BB Betatesters Posts: 1177 Joined: December 10, 2004	People already get 500+ kills with suicide gas tanks, if players could continually pick up a weapon it could easily be pushed beyond 1000 with no deaths for the player. Also, there would be much. much less use of the ammo box as people would grab a new weapon instead of waiting to restock and reload an old one. Not to mention it would make the game unbelievably easier if everyone could lob gastanks continually. In addition, players could crash servers with weapon spamming... -------------------- BB Maps I've made... bb_stronghold {Beta 9} bb_shootingrange {Beta 1} Threads you should read before posting... Immoral's List of Things Not to Suggest Immoral's Mapping Guide Forum Spammers Name (Number of spamming citations issued) Nikku (3), -KRUX- (2), Mitchell (2), hunter (2), Gneralas (2), CHAY (2), vyvu (2), Rustie1821 (1), w00t (1), dagny (1), Nandu666 (1), The.Raver(1), moecomputer (1), -=Jouni=- (1), santa_kills (1), DarknessGlams (1)

Mitchell	Posted: February 07, 2005 07:51 am
Experienced Killer Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: January 14, 2005	Hey all the weapons that are empty go away execpt the flame trower box and i kep picking it up so wtf?? -------------------- I will shut up for a month, because everything I said so far was stupid and agressive. k, bye

red.ruler

Posted: February 14, 2005 11:23 am

Rotten Meat

Group: Members
Posts: 1

Joined: February 14, 2005

QUOTE (Immoral Sniper @ Feb 3 2005, 04:49 PM)

QUOTE (Katayama @ Feb 3 2005, 10:29 AM)

That is a feature, not a bug. The devs intentionally made it so you can not pick up from the same weapon spawn twice in one life to prevent weapon camping and spamming.

understood. still, i think a new way needs to be figured out to balance-
it sucks to be playing (FOR A LONG TIME) and you haven't died, but can't find a gun that you haven't had before, and you get killed.

i don't have any suggestion yet how to accomplish this, except maybe:
1- weapons nostay; make weapons not respawn if a player is standing near them.

2- dmg/kill penalty if player is standing in 'base' areas, possibly can't get credit for consecutive kills while close to weapons, or make a custom area ent to define where the base is.

i just think bottom line:
if i pick up and drop every gun, i should not have to die before i can shoot something. i mean, let's get back to the game here, and this is a simulated zombie attack. the whole game plays really nice, transitioning from other mods, but without knowing it's intentional, it feels/plays like a really annoying bug.

gamersha794	Posted: February 14, 2005 12:42 pm
Zombie Hunter Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: December 16, 2004	You don't have to drop the guns though, unless your to lazy to find an ammo box. Your whole points rests on the fact that you throw away the weapon after it's empty, well I don't do that for the fact that I would be looking for a new weapon, I think it would be way to easy if you could pick up another of the same weapon after you discarded the last one because you were either to lazy, or not quite good enough to get to an ammo box. -------------------- come visit me on Teamxecuter Xbox-Scene Teamxodus And if you need help xbox modding PM or AIM me.

Immoral Sniper

Posted: February 14, 2005 02:01 pm

The force is strong in me
Group Icon

Group: BB Betatesters
Posts: 1177

Joined: December 10, 2004

QUOTE (red.ruler @ Feb 14 2005, 05:23 AM)

it sucks to be playing (FOR A LONG TIME) and you haven't died, but can't find a gun that you haven't had before, and you get killed.

Which is why you use ammoboxes instead of dropping and switching.

QUOTE

1- weapons nostay; make weapons not respawn if a player is standing near them.

Note a chance, not a single chance at all. The people who love to annoy others can't wait for this so they can prevent over half the weapons in the spawn area from spawning.

QUOTE

2- dmg/kill penalty if player is standing in 'base' areas, possibly can't get credit for consecutive kills while close to weapons, or make a custom area ent to define where the base is.

We have enough problems with damage as is, so I doubt an area that reduces the damage you do is going to garner much support at all. And on the basis that this is a fun mod I am going to have to go against the prevention of kills. "Of no I was three inches inside the base line, I didn't get any kills!" Not to mention there are tons of places where players can camp anyways and if this were used on them too, it would become even more annoying than useful at all.

QUOTE

if i pick up and drop every gun, i should not have to die before i can shoot something.

You should have to die if you picked up AND dropped every single weapon in the level. Besides, cases like those should be rare. The only time that ever is a problem for me is on slaywatch, because there is no ammobox.

QUOTE

but without knowing it's intentional, it feels/plays like a really annoying bug.

Well now you know, so work a stratagy around it like so many others before you.

--------------------